well i'm ready to take this off to the next level all we need is for admins plus or managers to agree to this idea and add this to the game so far based off the votes so far people like this idea so please once again if you see a staff member admins or managers let them know
Let me explain the problem with this. Its cool to see that its happening and I am glad you all want a part in trying to do this. I also wish you all luck and hope no one gets scammed. But, the reason we stopped middle manning in the first place is because for a week straight there were a few players reporting staff for scamming. If it was once or twice and it turns out they are false then you know thats fine. Dick players happen you know. But, the problem is that it happened multiple times throughout one week and it turned out not to be true in any of these situations not a single one that we spent actual time looking into. So you ask "well, then why not set up something so players can middle man and give them a position doing so". Well, because that doesn't change anything. Lets say we give you a rank and we say you are official middle manners in a sense. What if they report you guys for an entire week straight the same as they did the staff members? My point is that we decided that if players are going to take advantage of a system put in place to help them. Then they just simply don't deserve to use it. So having something "official" isn't as good as just having regular staff do it if its something that managers have to monitor all the time. Understand that accessing logs and searching for specific things of if someone scammed or not is difficult its not something that takes 10-15 minutes. Finding out if someone you put in a trusted position scammed is a serious thing. We spend hours making sure these players are not scammed by people we officially appoint to these positions. Now, this does not mean we won't ever bring back middle manning. Its just that its very clear there are some players who clearly take advantage of the rules put in place to protect them and do not deserve it. Managers are also pretty busy with life situations right now and we don't have all the time in the world "at this moment" to monitor such things. But, when we feel the time is right and when we are more available for such things we will probably bring back staff middle manning when we once again have more time to monitor these types of things. But, I do appreciate the things that "trusted" players are trying to do and hope you all succeed in creating a positive public light for yourselves with your own power.
Kwon i don't know i saw my post on the first page im ready to record and mm stuff i do i have obs ready to go and if anyone wants to say i scammed them i can just show them the video
I think you missed the point. The point is, a middleman is still going to need oversight. And that oversight is something we don't have time for. You say you can record all the time. But someone also has to upload that recording, wait for it to process then go through all that recording everytime. Its too hectic :/ If we add back middlemaning, it would be through staff.
Do staff members still middle man in donor deals and maybe if you sell a permit house ? i can understand that the whole rps middleman stuff is way too much but a trustworthy middle man for donation deals or premium house trades are important
Staff members are not allowed or supposed to middle man for anything any more. Donor deals need to be done through the forums and a staff member is not needed to accomplish that. Premium house trades, well it’s up to you to not get scammed. Be careful and trade with players you trust. Other than that it’s up to you to not be scammed since it isn’t against the rules.
Well i understand and see that point but if i were to apply for staff i would get instant denied but if i were to become staff i want to middle man things for people so thats where i got this idea from
Any sky to add to what u said you wouldn't really have to look over anything unless someone fells scammed and i'm not no scammer im not a bad person like other players
The point is that players will report you for scamming one way or another, as they did while staff middle manned. It does not matter how honest or legit you are. Players will be dishonest as Kwon has stated and it will end up being the same situation as when staff were middle mans. As sky said, there is no point in this as having a middle man thats not staff still leads to problems as if they were staff.