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Goodbye, Mixlogic

Discussion in 'Global Discussion' started by IanPeru, Sep 8, 2019.

  1. IanPeru

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    Oh god, where to start...

    GTM has been through some major changes since I've played consistently. One of them most notably for this context, an almost entirely new playerbase. Most of them don't know GTM for how it used to be. Some do. Who understands and who doesn't understand is currently of minor importance. The thing that is of importance is facts. Wanna hear some facts?

    Fact. I genuinely believed MixLogic to be an abusive staff member, and still do, just in a different way.

    Fact. Regardless of what I believed, I could've handled it all differently. I'm not saying what I started was uncalled for, but what I started eventually devolved into was not appropriate.

    Fact. Staff members should adhere to a set of rules/principles.

    And that last fact is where everyone has it all wrong.

    Aside from several instances, Mix was a great staff member. Screw anyone who says Mix didn't perform his staff duties well. Granted, there were multiple times when I think he acted way out of line, and that basically sums up why I thought he should've been fired. But damn me to hell and back if what I said was misinterpreted into Mix not fulfilling his duties.

    Want another fact? When I left, GTM had sunk into a depression. Less than 50-60 players where there were once hundreds. And now? GTM is back to thriving. Now I won't pretend to know the true extent of why GTM boomed back into existence, but I'm decently sure Mix had something to do with it, probably a good deal as well, considering his position. By the way, I'm not trying to toot anyone's horn more than someone else's. But what I saw from Mix before I left convinces me that he is one of the major factors to blame for GTM's resurgence.

    In conclusion, fuck you Mix. Damn you for everything you might have done and gotten away with that we knew about, and everything we didn't. Those things you did, were way unbecoming of a staff member.

    If you couldn't tell, chill tf out, I wasn't being entirely serious about that last part. Don't shoot me, jesus. This next part however, I'm being completely serious about.

    Thank you. Thank you for everything good you did. Anything wrong you did only accounts for maybe 3% of what you did. Everyone forgets about the other 97%, which is you genuinely helping the server. You served for 2 years, banning hackers, helping players, and who knows what. You may not have gotten the best wrap(is it rap? idfk...) along the way, but you still persevered through it, and continued to serve. So thank you. I guess.

    Good luck with the future, you sly dirty dog ;)


    P.S: In honor of MixLogics service, I will refrain from talking about any abuse I believe he may have committed. Not here on the forums at least. My discord is @Renegade_Boi#3487. I'm not giving you my discord so we can smack talk Mix. Its there for anyone who's genuinely interested or wants clarification on something.

    P.P.S: Yes I know his resignation is in 2 weeks, I forgot that while I was writing this but screw it, I'm still posting it.

    P.P.P.S: it's currently 4am for me when I'm writing this, pls don't bully me
     
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  2. Owendog77

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    Careful ren, they banned me from discord for saying pretty much the same thing.

    P.s. it's rep, short for reputation.
     
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  3. IanPeru

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    you seem to be under the illusion that I fear death

    Jk dont hit me with that mute

    also thanks for clarifying "rep"
     
  4. KwonShiYun

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    I will comment a bit on the parts about "why GTM lost players".

    There isn't really anything managers are capable of doing that could cause a server to go from 1.5k players to only 250 through normal means. And, if there was it would be rectified. I am not claiming no abuse was done I am claiming that I garuntee you that if it was abusive enuogh to cause 1,250 players to leave the server it would have been rectified.

    Simply no one is dumb enough to lose 1,250 players and say it is because of a staff or any rank "abusing" a little bit. I am not claiming anyone is abusing either of course. Just if what you say is true it would be retarded to believe that any significant 100+ player count decline would be caused by abuse.

    I will tell you though the obvious reasons why GTM lost players. I don't know how a lot of people don't know the answer to this. It might be a bit of ignorance? I will sum up a few multitude of reasons that I think contributed to a loss of players. Including some of the smaller things

    1. The GTM housing permit system. I do not think this played an awfully large role but, this is still a problem even "today" that when you join a server as a new player. I think houses are a huge attraction for a lot of players. It was back in legacy and it was in the beginning of current GTM. When a lot of new players start a server they often think about how they want to reach the top. They want to be the best. But, often if all the houses are bought up it can leave a sour taste in your mouth and feel that the server is "to far in" for you to start climbing. I would say this was a smaller issue when the server had 1,500 players.

    2/3. I would claim that both of these are probably the largest contribution to decline. This is also the one that confuses me how people do not understand. Lets think about it for a moment. GTM was not the only server that lost 100s to thousands of players at the time the server lost its player base. Even widely notable servers like mineplex lost 1000s of players. I am pretty sure none of our staff were staff on mineplex at this time nor could they have abused mineplex hard enough to cause it to lose its 1000s of players. So of course smaller servers like GTM will take a hit that looks larger because of its smaller player base. This was around the time fortnite was gaining traction and people were losing interest in GTA5.

    4. I would also say this contributed to a large amount of people leaving, but I do not think that it was the main reason. There was a huge issue among management during that time that was making it really hard to fix bugs and get things done. Which made TONS of bugs on the server. Obviously the amount of bugs that had piled up were bound to cause players to leave.

    5. I will add this, but I would say its probably as small as the first one. I have never personally seen a player say they quit over abuse. Yes, trust me I know you want to say "well this one guy". And, I am sure this "one guy" is being completely honest (no sarcasm). But, in my entire time over staffing most players that get banned permanently. Do a few things before announcing they quit, like saying they didn't break any rules (then they get proven wrong), they get unbanned and a few months later announce they quit because of an abusive situation 2 months prior, or they continue playing and eventually quit for regular reasons then just say at some point later it was because of abuse.

    I am not claiming that no one ever abuses or that the people screaming abuse were not abused. I am simply saying that I have never actually seen someone quit because of abuse and then actually win an argument of "I was abused."

    Yes you may as well say "well thats because they get banned for defending themselves." I would argue that is incorrect as before staff even get to tear those people down usually the community gets to them first.

    Again, ;) I am not claiming no one ever gets abused. Just that I garuntee you it happens a lot less then you think. A lot of the people that become staff realize after becoming staff that players tend to lie to eachother, then they tend to share bits and parts that make them look good, and then they also jump to conclusions without listening to both sides.
     
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    Rip mix.
     
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    I'm not saying this was the only reason we lost ppl, but numerous players did leave because of the mini nerf, a decision that only the senior team had any say in.
     
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  7. IanPeru

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    Regardless of what happened, GTM is now a bruh moment. Used to be the funnest server in the world. I'm not one to challenge change, but still, it makes you wonder...